<li><bclass="TOPIC">Items from last meeting: anitsirk to update the roadmap</b><spanclass="details">(<ahref='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-15'>elky</a>, 07:39:58)</span>
<oltype="a">
<li><spanclass="INFO">the update of the roadmap files with links to
the blueprints is done</span><spanclass="details">(<a
<li><bclass="TOPIC">Items from last meeting: dajan to raise appropriate issues in the tracker</b><spanclass="details">(<ahref='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-19'>elky</a>, 07:42:34)</span>
<br></li>
<li><bclass="TOPIC">anzeljg To put together a quick wiki page with some information (possibly code too)</b><spanclass="details">(<ahref='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-27'>elky</a>, 07:43:48)</span>
<li><bclass="TOPIC">Discuss/decide on style guidelines for CSS https://reviews.mahara.org/#/c/1098/ Melissa/Hugh</b><spanclass="details">(<ahref='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-161'>elky</a>, 08:12:27)</span>
<li><bclass="TOPIC">Tmirante had an item: Search 2.0 engine plugin possible time schedule request</b><spanclass="details">(<ahref='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-287'>elky</a>, 08:36:54)</span>
<oltype="a">
<li><spanclass="INFO">tmirante isn't available, will leave on agenda
<aname="l-2"></a><spanclass="tm">07:37:42</span><spanclass="nk"><maharameet></span> Meeting started Wed May 23 07:37:42 2012 UTC. The chair is elky. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
<aname="l-4"></a><spanclass="tm">07:38:04</span><spanclass="nk"><anzeljg></span><spanclass="cmd">#info </span><spanclass="cmdline">anzeljg is Gregor An�elj, Gimnazija Be�igrad, Ljubljana, Slovenia</span>
<aname="l-5"></a><spanclass="tm">07:38:15</span><spanclass="nk"><anitsirk></span><spanclass="cmd">#info </span><spanclass="cmdline">anitsirk is Kristina Hoeppner, Catalyst IT, NZ</span>
<aname="l-6"></a><spanclass="tm">07:38:27</span><spanclass="nk"><sonn1></span><spanclass="cmd">#info </span><spanclass="cmdline">sonn Son Nguyen, Catalyst IT, NZ</span>
<aname="l-7"></a><spanclass="tm">07:38:27</span><spanclass="nk"><rkabalin_></span><spanclass="cmd">#info </span><spanclass="cmdline">rkabalin_ Ruslan Kabalin - Lancaster University, UK</span>
<aname="l-8"></a><spanclass="tm">07:38:31</span><spanclass="nk"><elky></span><spanclass="cmd">#info </span><spanclass="cmdline">elky is melissa draper, catalyst IT, NZ</span>
<aname="l-9"></a><spanclass="tm">07:38:36</span><spanclass="nk"><dobedobedoh></span><spanclass="cmd">#info </span><spanclass="cmdline">dobedobedoh is Andrew Nicols, Lancaster University, UK</span>
<aname="l-10"></a><spanclass="tm">07:38:48</span><spanclass="nk"><richardm></span><spanclass="cmd">#info </span><spanclass="cmdline">richardm Richard Mansfield, Catalyst IT</span>
<aname="l-11"></a><spanclass="tm">07:38:49</span><spanclass="nk"><hughdavenport`></span><spanclass="cmd">#info </span><spanclass="cmdline">hughdavenport` is Hugh Davenport, Catalyst IT, NZ</span>
<aname="l-12"></a><spanclass="tm">07:38:50</span><spanclass="nk"><alanmc></span><spanclass="cmd">#info </span><spanclass="cmdline">alanmc is Alan McNatty, Catalyst IT, NZ</span>
<aname="l-13"></a><spanclass="tm">07:39:22</span><spanclass="nk"><lamiette></span><spanclass="cmd">#info </span><spanclass="cmdline">lamiette is Stacey Walker, Catalyst IT Europe</span>
<aname="l-14"></a><spanclass="tm">07:39:41</span><spanclass="nk"><elky></span> is that everyone?
<aname="l-15"></a><spanclass="tm">07:39:58</span><spanclass="nk"><elky></span><spanclass="topic">#topic </span><spanclass="topicline">Items from last meeting: anitsirk to update the roadmap</span>
<aname="l-16"></a><spanclass="tm">07:40:29</span><spanclass="nk"><anitsirk></span><spanclass="cmd">#info </span><spanclass="cmdline">the update of the roadmap files with links to the blueprints is done</span>
<aname="l-18"></a><spanclass="tm">07:42:14</span><spanclass="nk"><elky></span> anitsirk, next item?
<aname="l-19"></a><spanclass="tm">07:42:34</span><spanclass="nk"><elky></span><spanclass="topic">#topic </span><spanclass="topicline">Items from last meeting: dajan to raise appropriate issues in the tracker</span>
<aname="l-20"></a><spanclass="tm">07:42:43</span><spanclass="nk"><anitsirk></span><spanclass="hi">BTW:</span> for those who haven't been here for a long time, please put a ".." in a separate line if you have text that is very long and needs to stretch over multiple lines
<aname="l-21"></a><spanclass="tm">07:43:01</span><spanclass="nk"><elky></span> dajan isn't here I don't think, anyone know if that was done?
<aname="l-22"></a><spanclass="tm">07:43:04</span><spanclass="nk"><anitsirk></span><spanclass="hi">elky:</span> what was that about again/
<aname="l-24"></a><spanclass="tm">07:43:10</span><spanclass="nk"><anitsirk></span> dajan might have already finished that
<aname="l-25"></a><spanclass="tm">07:43:32</span><spanclass="nk"><elky></span> i'm not sure, i'm just following the agenda :)
<aname="l-26"></a><spanclass="tm">07:43:37</span><spanclass="nk"><elky></span> moving on then
<aname="l-27"></a><spanclass="tm">07:43:48</span><spanclass="nk"><elky></span><spanclass="topic">#topic </span><spanclass="topicline">anzeljg To put together a quick wiki page with some information (possibly code too)</span>
<aname="l-28"></a><spanclass="tm">07:43:54</span><spanclass="nk"><anzeljg></span> Sorry, but I haven't done that yet...
<aname="l-29"></a><spanclass="tm">07:43:58</span><spanclass="nk"><anzeljg></span> I had troubles with using/creating custom Pieform element to give users abilitiy to select files to include in page/view when they drag and drop block to it's position in view/page.
<aname="l-30"></a><spanclass="tm">07:44:03</span><spanclass="nk"><anzeljg></span> It worked for single folder, but wanted to create filemanager of some sort, to allow navigating through filders and sub-folders.
<aname="l-31"></a><spanclass="tm">07:44:08</span><spanclass="nk"><anzeljg></span> Finally found Datatables plugin for jQuery (http://datatables.net/), but there are License compatibility questions/issues I want to ask/raise later...
<aname="l-32"></a><spanclass="tm">07:44:14</span><spanclass="nk"><anzeljg></span> Anyway, now I have to integrate this into custom Pieform element and test if it works, and then the plugin (initial version) should be completed. Hopefully till Mahara UK 2012 Conference as I want to present the plugin there...
<aname="l-34"></a><spanclass="tm">07:44:30</span><spanclass="nk"><elky></span> anzeljg, is that the licence thing you were asking about earlier today?
<aname="l-38"></a><spanclass="tm">07:45:33</span><spanclass="nk"><elky></span> alan's up first :)
<aname="l-39"></a><spanclass="tm">07:45:52</span><spanclass="nk"><anitsirk></span><spanclass="hi">alanmc:</span> can you please put in the link to your wiki page?
<aname="l-40"></a><spanclass="tm">07:45:54</span><spanclass="nk"><elky></span> I don't know how these go, never seen one happen
<aname="l-41"></a><spanclass="tm">07:45:55</span><spanclass="nk"><dobedobedoh></span> It seems the wiki is down too by the way
<aname="l-42"></a><spanclass="tm">07:45:59</span><spanclass="nk"><anitsirk></span> (and the others up for review as well)
<aname="l-43"></a><spanclass="tm">07:46:06</span><spanclass="nk"><anitsirk></span> what? i just accessed it
<aname="l-44"></a><spanclass="tm">07:46:07</span><spanclass="nk"><elky></span> dobedobedoh, i have it up
<aname="l-48"></a><spanclass="tm">07:46:51</span><spanclass="nk"><anitsirk></span> http://meetbot.mylittleproject.co.uk/mahara-dev/2011/mahara-dev.2011-06-29-19.35.log.html#l-310 -< that's what we did last time
<aname="l-55"></a><spanclass="tm">07:49:28</span><spanclass="nk"><anitsirk></span> only current reviewers can vote on the applications. that are as per richardm 's extracted list: http://paste.dollyfish.net.nz/4b8f4a: richardm, lamiette, hughdavenport`, rkabalin_, dobedobedoh, bug, lordp, danp
<aname="l-56"></a><spanclass="tm">07:50:07</span><spanclass="nk"><anitsirk></span> i'll count votes so there's no way elky sees them as chair as she is up as reviewer as well. ;-)
<aname="l-57"></a><spanclass="tm">07:50:18</span><spanclass="nk"><anitsirk></span> and hopefully, we won't have a fire alarm again as last time.
<aname="l-58"></a><spanclass="tm">07:50:24</span><spanclass="nk"><elky></span> darn, there goes my evil plan
<aname="l-63"></a><spanclass="tm">07:51:14</span><spanclass="nk"><anitsirk></span><spanclass="cmd">#info: </span><spanclass="cmdline">dobedobedoh said last time "consensus decision rules, with those at the meeting entitled to vote"</span>
<aname="l-64"></a><spanclass="tm">07:51:45</span><spanclass="nk"><dobedobedoh></span> so three votes needed
<aname="l-65"></a><spanclass="tm">07:51:47</span><spanclass="nk"><anitsirk></span> do current reviewers have any questions for the applicatants?
<aname="l-66"></a><spanclass="tm">07:52:25</span><spanclass="nk"><dobedobedoh></span> none from me (well nothing sensible)
<aname="l-67"></a><spanclass="tm">07:52:32</span><spanclass="nk"><anitsirk></span> https://wiki.mahara.org/index.php/Developer_Area/Code_Review actually details the "Becoming a Reviewer"
<aname="l-68"></a><spanclass="tm">07:52:32</span><spanclass="nk"><rkabalin_></span> How did they came accross Mahara? :)
<aname="l-70"></a><spanclass="tm">07:53:07</span><spanclass="nk"><rkabalin_></span> just in few words
<aname="l-71"></a><spanclass="tm">07:53:17</span><spanclass="nk"><alanmc></span> Kinda looking for a problem to solve really .. kinda back-to-front ;)
<aname="l-72"></a><spanclass="tm">07:53:17</span><spanclass="nk"><anitsirk></span> oh, alanmc is verbose today ;-)
<aname="l-73"></a><spanclass="tm">07:53:51</span><spanclass="nk"><elky></span> I was seconded for bug squishing for 1.4, and got sucked in :)
<aname="l-74"></a><spanclass="tm">07:54:06</span><spanclass="nk"><elky></span> It's a really nice project to work on.
<aname="l-75"></a><spanclass="tm">07:54:10</span><spanclass="nk"><rkabalin_></span><spanclass="hi">alanmc:</span> ok, the same way as me then
<aname="l-76"></a><spanclass="tm">07:54:24</span><spanclass="nk"><sonn1></span> bug fixing for master
<aname="l-77"></a><spanclass="tm">07:55:00</span><spanclass="nk"><alanmc></span><spanclass="hi">rkabalin_:</span> yes .. I hear a lot of positive things from 2 hand but would love to be closer to the end users .. so that changes can be appreciated
<aname="l-78"></a><spanclass="tm">07:55:38</span><spanclass="nk"><anitsirk></span><spanclass="hi">alanmc:</span> the mobile stuff you do is very much appreciated among users. also you responding to their queries.
<aname="l-79"></a><spanclass="tm">07:55:55</span><spanclass="nk"><rkabalin_></span> thanks, no more questions from me
<aname="l-80"></a><spanclass="tm">07:56:01</span><spanclass="nk"><alanmc></span><spanclass="hi">anitsirk:</span> a field trip is overdue :)
<aname="l-82"></a><spanclass="tm">07:56:38</span><spanclass="nk"><dobedobedoh></span> question from me: If you had to implement one new feature in mahara to improve the platform, what would it be?
<aname="l-83"></a><spanclass="tm">07:57:05</span><spanclass="nk"><elky></span> We have to pick just one? :(
<aname="l-85"></a><spanclass="tm">07:57:08</span><spanclass="nk"><rkabalin_></span><spanclass="hi">dobedobedoh:</span> that is a sensible one :)
<aname="l-86"></a><spanclass="tm">07:57:20</span><spanclass="nk"><alanmc></span><spanclass="hi">dobedobedoh:</span> my preference would be to review theming/layout to work on wider arrange of devices
<aname="l-87"></a><spanclass="tm">07:57:27</span><spanclass="nk"><dobedobedoh></span> it can be an existing feature in development, or something fresh and new
<aname="l-88"></a><spanclass="tm">07:57:28</span><spanclass="nk"><sonn1></span> multiple language
<aname="l-89"></a><spanclass="tm">07:57:37</span><spanclass="nk"><anitsirk></span><spanclass="hi">sonn1:</span> what do you mean by that?
<aname="l-93"></a><spanclass="tm">07:58:17</span><spanclass="nk"><alanmc></span> | more
<aname="l-94"></a><spanclass="tm">07:58:25</span><spanclass="nk"><anitsirk></span> in what sense? more lang packs? easier access to the interface translation? automatic translation of the portfolio?...
<aname="l-100"></a><spanclass="tm">07:59:28</span><spanclass="nk"><sonn1></span> and so on
<aname="l-101"></a><spanclass="tm">07:59:54</span><spanclass="nk"><elky></span> I'd love to see improvements to the accessibility.
<aname="l-102"></a><spanclass="tm">07:59:55</span><spanclass="nk"><richardm></span> sonn1 and i had a discussion about support for translations of user content
<aname="l-103"></a><spanclass="tm">07:59:58</span><spanclass="nk"><richardm></span> we don't have that yet
<aname="l-104"></a><spanclass="tm">08:00:15</span><spanclass="nk"><dobedobedoh></span><spanclass="hi">elky:</span> Do you have anything specific in mind. One specific change?
<aname="l-105"></a><spanclass="tm">08:00:31</span><spanclass="nk"><anitsirk></span> that would be interesting. also the ability to store your CV in multiple languages (idea from Klaus and team in Austria)
<aname="l-106"></a><spanclass="tm">08:00:59</span><spanclass="nk"><anzeljg></span><spanclass="hi">richardm:</span> it is kindda implemented for showing Europass stuff in different languages...
<aname="l-107"></a><spanclass="tm">08:01:13</span><spanclass="nk"><anzeljg></span> maybe in that direcion?
<aname="l-109"></a><spanclass="tm">08:01:53</span><spanclass="nk"><anzeljg></span> not everything is translatable, but majority
<aname="l-110"></a><spanclass="tm">08:01:58</span><spanclass="nk"><richardm></span> we were specifically thinking the first priority would be stuff like the homepage content
<aname="l-111"></a><spanclass="tm">08:01:58</span><spanclass="nk"><elky></span> dobedobedoh, vision-impaired friendly theming and settings that help users adjust to their specific accomodations
<aname="l-112"></a><spanclass="tm">08:02:16</span><spanclass="nk"><elky></span><spanclass="hi">eg:</span> high-contrast theme with configurable text size
<aname="l-113"></a><spanclass="tm">08:02:59</span><spanclass="nk"><elky></span> and i think we could do with making sure the entire site is able to be keyboard driven
<aname="l-114"></a><spanclass="tm">08:03:14</span><spanclass="nk"><anitsirk></span><spanclass="cmd">#idea </span><spanclass="cmdline">from reviewer applicant alanmc for new mahara feature: review theming/layout to work on wider arrange of devices</span>
<aname="l-115"></a><spanclass="tm">08:03:25</span><spanclass="nk"><dobedobedoh></span> (that's all of my questions)
<aname="l-116"></a><spanclass="tm">08:03:43</span><spanclass="nk"><anzeljg></span> back
<aname="l-117"></a><spanclass="tm">08:03:59</span><spanclass="nk"><anitsirk></span><spanclass="cmd">#idea </span><spanclass="cmdline">from reviewer applicatant sonn1 (and richardm) for new mahara feature: support for translation of user content and homepage content</span>
<aname="l-118"></a><spanclass="tm">08:04:34</span><spanclass="nk"><anitsirk></span><spanclass="cmd">#idea </span><spanclass="cmdline">from reviewer applicant elky for new mahara feature: improvements to accessibility, e.g. vision-impaired friendly theming and settings that help users adjust to their specific accomodations</span>
<aname="l-119"></a><spanclass="tm">08:04:55</span><spanclass="nk"><anitsirk></span> any other questions? richardm, lamiette or hughdavenport`?
<aname="l-120"></a><spanclass="tm">08:05:00</span><spanclass="nk"><hughdavenport`></span> nothing from me
<aname="l-121"></a><spanclass="tm">08:05:04</span><spanclass="nk"><richardm></span> none from me
<aname="l-122"></a><spanclass="tm">08:05:16</span><spanclass="nk"><alanmc></span><spanclass="hi">elky:</span> curious about the keyboard driven .. could that be as simple as an audit of say use of accesskey etc to be able to 'make it work' .. anything tangible?
<aname="l-123"></a><spanclass="tm">08:05:17</span><spanclass="nk"><lamiette></span> non thanks
<aname="l-124"></a><spanclass="tm">08:05:29</span><spanclass="nk"><anitsirk></span> then let's move to the voting, shall we?
<aname="l-125"></a><spanclass="tm">08:05:31</span><spanclass="nk"><dobedobedoh></span> (I did that a few years ago)
<aname="l-126"></a><spanclass="tm">08:05:37</span><spanclass="nk"><elky></span> alanmc, yep. it'd make your job a lot easier too
<aname="l-127"></a><spanclass="tm">08:05:52</span><spanclass="nk"><anitsirk></span> all of you who can vote...
<aname="l-128"></a><spanclass="tm">08:06:23</span><spanclass="nk"><hughdavenport`></span> sounds like a plan
<aname="l-129"></a><spanclass="tm">08:06:26</span><spanclass="nk"><anitsirk></span> please say "#agreed for [nickname of applicatant] to become Mahara reviewer" (without the quotes)
<aname="l-130"></a><spanclass="tm">08:06:28</span><spanclass="nk"><alanmc></span><spanclass="hi">dobedobedoh:</span> cool ... elky yeah it's always a battle with latest jQuery foo and being able to support accessibility .. I'm not super flash on that - it's easy to forget
<aname="l-131"></a><spanclass="tm">08:07:20</span><spanclass="nk"><dobedobedoh></span><spanclass="cmd">#agreed </span><spanclass="cmdline">for elky to become a Mahara reviewer</span>
<aname="l-132"></a><spanclass="tm">08:07:27</span><spanclass="nk"><dobedobedoh></span><spanclass="cmd">#agreed </span><spanclass="cmdline">for alanmc to become a Mahara reviewer</span>
<aname="l-133"></a><spanclass="tm">08:07:37</span><spanclass="nk"><dobedobedoh></span><spanclass="cmd">#agreed </span><spanclass="cmdline">for sonn1 to become a Mahara reviewer</span>
<aname="l-134"></a><spanclass="tm">08:07:41</span><spanclass="nk"><rkabalin_></span><spanclass="cmd">#agreed </span><spanclass="cmdline">for alanmc to become Mahara reviewer</span>
<aname="l-135"></a><spanclass="tm">08:07:46</span><spanclass="nk"><hughdavenport`></span><spanclass="cmd">#agreed </span><spanclass="cmdline">for elky to become a Mahara reviewer</span>
Andrew Robert Nicols <andrew.nicols@luns.net.uk>