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[mahara-dev] Meeting of 23rd May 2012

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<h1>#mahara-dev Meeting</h1>
<span class="details">
Meeting started by elky at 07:37:42 UTC
(<a href="mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html">full logs</a>).</span>
<br><br>
<h3>Meeting summary</h3>
<ol>
<li>
<ol type="a">
<li><span class="INFO">anzeljg is Gregor An�elj, Gimnazija Be�igrad,
Ljubljana, Slovenia</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-4'>anzeljg</a>,
07:38:04)</span></li>
<li><span class="INFO">anitsirk is Kristina Hoeppner, Catalyst IT,
NZ</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-5'>anitsirk</a>,
07:38:15)</span></li>
<li><span class="INFO">sonn Son Nguyen, Catalyst IT, NZ</span> <span
class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-6'>sonn1</a>,
07:38:27)</span></li>
<li><span class="INFO">rkabalin_ Ruslan Kabalin - Lancaster
University, UK</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-7'>rkabalin_</a>,
07:38:27)</span></li>
<li><span class="INFO">elky is melissa draper, catalyst IT, NZ</span>
<span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-8'>elky</a>,
07:38:31)</span></li>
<li><span class="INFO">dobedobedoh is Andrew Nicols, Lancaster
University, UK</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-9'>dobedobedoh</a>,
07:38:36)</span></li>
<li><span class="INFO">richardm Richard Mansfield, Catalyst IT</span>
<span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-10'>richardm</a>,
07:38:48)</span></li>
<li><span class="INFO">hughdavenport` is Hugh Davenport, Catalyst IT,
NZ</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-11'>hughdavenport`</a>,
07:38:49)</span></li>
<li><span class="INFO">alanmc is Alan McNatty, Catalyst IT, NZ</span>
<span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-12'>alanmc</a>,
07:38:50)</span></li>
<li><span class="INFO">lamiette is Stacey Walker, Catalyst IT
Europe</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-13'>lamiette</a>,
07:39:22)</span></li>
</ol>
<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">Items from last meeting: anitsirk to update the roadmap</b> <span class="details">(<a href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-15'>elky</a>, 07:39:58)</span>
<ol type="a">
<li><span class="INFO">the update of the roadmap files with links to
the blueprints is done</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-16'>anitsirk</a>,
07:40:29)</span></li>
<li><a href="Agenda:">Agenda:</a>
https://wiki.mahara.org/index.php/Developer_Area/Developer_Meetings/2012-05-23
<span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-17'>elky</a>,
07:40:50)</span></li>
</ol>
<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">Items from last meeting: dajan to raise appropriate issues in the tracker</b> <span class="details">(<a href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-19'>elky</a>, 07:42:34)</span>
<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">anzeljg To put together a quick wiki page with some information (possibly code too)</b> <span class="details">(<a href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-27'>elky</a>, 07:43:48)</span>
<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">Mahara reviewer applications</b> <span class="details">(<a href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-37'>elky</a>, 07:45:15)</span>
<ol type="a">
<li><a
href="https://wiki.mahara.org/index.php/User:Alanmc">https://wiki.mahara.org/index.php/User:Alanmc</a>
<span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-45'>alanmc</a>,
07:46:10)</span></li>
<li><a
href="http://meetbot.mylittleproject.co.uk/mahara-dev/2011/mahara-dev.2011-06-29-19.35.log.html#l-310">http://meetbot.mylittleproject.co.uk/mahara-dev/2011/mahara-dev.2011-06-29-19.35.log.html#l-310</a>
-&lt; that's what we did last time <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-48'>anitsirk</a>,
07:46:51)</span></li>
<li><a
href="https://wiki.mahara.org/index.php/User:Alanmc">https://wiki.mahara.org/index.php/User:Alanmc</a>
<span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-49'>elky</a>,
07:47:15)</span></li>
<li><span class="INFO">: alanmc reviewer application</span> <span
class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-50'>anitsirk</a>,
07:47:40)</span></li>
<li><span class="INFO">: sonn1 reviewer application</span> <span
class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-51'>anitsirk</a>,
07:47:52)</span></li>
<li><span class="INFO">: elky reviewer application</span> <span
class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-52'>anitsirk</a>,
07:48:00)</span></li>
<li><a
href="https://wiki.mahara.org/index.php/User:Ngson2000">https://wiki.mahara.org/index.php/User:Ngson2000</a>
<span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-53'>sonn1</a>,
07:48:16)</span></li>
<li><a
href="https://wiki.mahara.org/index.php/User:Melissadraper">https://wiki.mahara.org/index.php/User:Melissadraper</a>
<span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-54'>elky</a>,
07:48:45)</span></li>
<li><span class="INFO">: dobedobedoh said last time "consensus
decision rules, with those at the meeting entitled to vote"</span>
<span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-63'>anitsirk</a>,
07:51:14)</span></li>
<li><a
href="https://wiki.mahara.org/index.php/Developer_Area/Code_Review">https://wiki.mahara.org/index.php/Developer_Area/Code_Review</a>
actually details the "Becoming a Reviewer" <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-67'>anitsirk</a>,
07:52:32)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">IDEA</i>: <span class="IDEA">from reviewer
applicant alanmc for new mahara feature: review theming/layout to
work on wider arrange of devices</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-114'>anitsirk</a>,
08:03:14)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">IDEA</i>: <span class="IDEA">from reviewer
applicatant sonn1 (and richardm) for new mahara feature: support for
translation of user content and homepage content</span> <span
class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-117'>anitsirk</a>,
08:03:59)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">IDEA</i>: <span class="IDEA">from reviewer
applicant elky for new mahara feature: improvements to
accessibility, e.g. vision-impaired friendly theming and settings
that help users adjust to their specific accomodations</span> <span
class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-118'>anitsirk</a>,
08:04:34)</span></li>
</ol>
<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">Discuss/decide on style guidelines for CSS https://reviews.mahara.org/#/c/1098/ Melissa/Hugh</b> <span class="details">(<a href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-161'>elky</a>, 08:12:27)</span>
<ol type="a">
<li><a href="http://csslint.net/">http://csslint.net/</a> <span
class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-175'>anzeljg</a>,
08:15:03)</span></li>
<li><span class="INFO">CSS has most often tabs and was replaced with
spaces as per coding guidelines. what shall be done about it in the
future?</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-178'>anitsirk</a>,
08:15:31)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">IDEA</i>: <span class="IDEA">: run css through
cssoptimiser (dobedobedoh)</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-179'>anitsirk</a>,
08:15:46)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">IDEA</i>: <span class="IDEA">: make a hook in
jenkins (hughdavenport`)</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-182'>anitsirk</a>,
08:16:01)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">IDEA</i>: <span class="IDEA">make it part of
skins (dobedobedoh)</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-191'>elky</a>,
08:17:35)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">IDEA</i>: <span class="IDEA">run an optimizer
over what we have, then stick to ONE style from here on out
(hugh)</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-197'>elky</a>,
08:18:18)</span></li>
<li><span class="INFO">cssoptimiser is a minifier</span> <span
class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-205'>elky</a>,
08:19:16)</span></li>
<li><span class="INFO">lint/ tab-spacing is for readability</span>
<span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-214'>elky</a>,
08:20:16)</span></li>
<li><span class="INFO">: minified JavaScript is already shipped for
most third-party code</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-228'>anitsirk</a>,
08:22:35)</span></li>
<li><span class="INFO">moodle has cssoptimisation at request time, and
a cssrev for changes</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-238'>elky</a>,
08:24:23)</span></li>
<li><span class="INFO">new in moodle 2.3, wont be on by default for a
while</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-242'>elky</a>,
08:24:45)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">ACTION</i>: <span class="ACTION">will continue
css discussion next meeting</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-252'>elky</a>,
08:28:27)</span></li>
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<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">License compatibility (anzeljg)</b> <span class="details">(<a href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-253'>elky</a>, 08:28:46)</span>
<ol type="a">
<li><a
href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing:Main#Software_License_List">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing:Main#Software_License_List</a>
<span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-258'>anzeljg</a>,
08:29:10)</span></li>
<li><span class="INFO">the gnu and fsf pages show a list of licenses,
basically most gpl-compatible are compatible with gpl3, except gpl2
iirc</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-273'>elky</a>,
08:32:46)</span></li>
<li><span class="INFO">^ said hugh.</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-274'>elky</a>,
08:32:56)</span></li>
<li><a
href="https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#GPLCompatibleLicenses">https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#GPLCompatibleLicenses</a>
was the link that fmarier had pointed us once in a pizza talk at
catalyst <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-276'>anitsirk</a>,
08:34:14)</span></li>
</ol>
<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">Tmirante had an item: Search 2.0 engine plugin possible time schedule request</b> <span class="details">(<a href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-287'>elky</a>, 08:36:54)</span>
<ol type="a">
<li><span class="INFO">tmirante isn't available, will leave on agenda
for next meeting.</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-290'>elky</a>,
08:37:36)</span></li>
</ol>
<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">Next meeting and Chair</b> <span class="details">(<a href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-291'>elky</a>, 08:38:05)</span>
<ol type="a">
<li><span class="INFO">One month from now is weds 20th</span> <span
class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-292'>elky</a>,
08:38:34)</span></li>
<li><span class="INFO">20th clashes with moodlemoot fr</span> <span
class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-297'>elky</a>,
08:40:11)</span></li>
<li><span class="INFO">Next meeting will be 27th june 2000 UTC</span>
<span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-310'>elky</a>,
08:43:19)</span></li>
<li><span class="INFO">rkabalin_ to chair</span> <span
class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-340'>elky</a>,
08:47:42)</span></li>
</ol>
<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">Any Other Business?</b> <span class="details">(<a href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-344'>elky</a>, 08:48:40)</span>
<ol type="a">
<li><span class="INFO">richardm is leaving catalyst on june 30
:(</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-348'>elky</a>,
08:49:24)</span></li>
<li><span class="INFO">the next mahara newsletter will be published on
1 July 2012. please submit your stories to
newsletter@mahara.org</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-393'>anitsirk</a>,
08:58:32)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">IDEA</i>: <span class="IDEA">from the catalyst
team: switch to a 6-monthly release cycle with releases in April and
October</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-409'>anitsirk</a>,
09:01:18)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">ACTION</i>: <span class="ACTION">elky to write
up a post for the developer forum</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-414'>elky</a>,
09:01:47)</span></li>
<li><span class="INFO">: that release cycle proposal received positive
nods from meeting attendees</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-421'>anitsirk</a>,
09:03:42)</span></li>
<li><span class="INFO">Alanmc wants more interest in the mobile api
stuff</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-443'>elky</a>,
09:07:22)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">ACTION</i>: <span class="ACTION">alanmc to
write forum post about mobile api stuff</span> <span
class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-444'>elky</a>,
09:07:37)</span></li>
<li><span class="INFO">keen to find out from those hosting Mahara
sites if the authentication mechanism is understood and OK</span>
<span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html#l-449'>elky</a>,
09:08:18)</span></li>
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</li>
</ol>
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<span class="details">
Meeting ended at 09:09:08 UTC
(<a href="mahara-dev.2012-05-23-07.37.log.html">full logs</a>).</span>
<br><br>
<h3>Action items</h3>
<ol>
<li>will continue css discussion next meeting</li>
<li>elky to write up a post for the developer forum</li>
<li>alanmc to write forum post about mobile api stuff</li>
</ol>
<br><br>
<h3>Action items, by person</h3>
<ol>
<li> alanmc <ol>
<li>alanmc to write forum post about mobile api stuff</li>
</ol></li>
<li> elky <ol>
<li>elky to write up a post for the developer forum</li>
</ol></li>
</ol>
<br><br>
<h3>People present (lines said)</h3>
<ol>
<li>anitsirk (102)</li>
<li>elky (93)</li>
<li>dobedobedoh (51)</li>
<li>anzeljg (48)</li>
<li>alanmc (37)</li>
<li>richardm (34)</li>
<li>hughdavenport` (33)</li>
<li>rkabalin_ (28)</li>
<li>sonn1 (19)</li>
<li>lamiette (8)</li>
<li>maharameet (3)</li>
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<pre><a name="l-1"></a><span class="tm">07:37:42</span><span class="nk"> &lt;elky&gt;</span> <span class="cmd">#startmeeting</span><span class="cmdline"></span>
<a name="l-2"></a><span class="tm">07:37:42</span><span class="nk"> &lt;maharameet&gt;</span> Meeting started Wed May 23 07:37:42 2012 UTC. The chair is elky. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
<a name="l-3"></a><span class="tm">07:37:42</span><span class="nk"> &lt;maharameet&gt;</span> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
<a name="l-4"></a><span class="tm">07:38:04</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anzeljg&gt;</span> <span class="cmd">#info </span><span class="cmdline">anzeljg is Gregor An�elj, Gimnazija Be�igrad, Ljubljana, Slovenia</span>
<a name="l-5"></a><span class="tm">07:38:15</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anitsirk&gt;</span> <span class="cmd">#info </span><span class="cmdline">anitsirk is Kristina Hoeppner, Catalyst IT, NZ</span>
<a name="l-6"></a><span class="tm">07:38:27</span><span class="nk"> &lt;sonn1&gt;</span> <span class="cmd">#info </span><span class="cmdline">sonn Son Nguyen, Catalyst IT, NZ</span>
<a name="l-7"></a><span class="tm">07:38:27</span><span class="nk"> &lt;rkabalin_&gt;</span> <span class="cmd">#info </span><span class="cmdline">rkabalin_ Ruslan Kabalin - Lancaster University, UK</span>
<a name="l-8"></a><span class="tm">07:38:31</span><span class="nk"> &lt;elky&gt;</span> <span class="cmd">#info </span><span class="cmdline">elky is melissa draper, catalyst IT, NZ</span>
<a name="l-9"></a><span class="tm">07:38:36</span><span class="nk"> &lt;dobedobedoh&gt;</span> <span class="cmd">#info </span><span class="cmdline">dobedobedoh is Andrew Nicols, Lancaster University, UK</span>
<a name="l-10"></a><span class="tm">07:38:48</span><span class="nk"> &lt;richardm&gt;</span> <span class="cmd">#info </span><span class="cmdline">richardm Richard Mansfield, Catalyst IT</span>
<a name="l-11"></a><span class="tm">07:38:49</span><span class="nk"> &lt;hughdavenport`&gt;</span> <span class="cmd">#info </span><span class="cmdline">hughdavenport` is Hugh Davenport, Catalyst IT, NZ</span>
<a name="l-12"></a><span class="tm">07:38:50</span><span class="nk"> &lt;alanmc&gt;</span> <span class="cmd">#info </span><span class="cmdline">alanmc is Alan McNatty, Catalyst IT, NZ</span>
<a name="l-13"></a><span class="tm">07:39:22</span><span class="nk"> &lt;lamiette&gt;</span> <span class="cmd">#info </span><span class="cmdline">lamiette is Stacey Walker, Catalyst IT Europe</span>
<a name="l-14"></a><span class="tm">07:39:41</span><span class="nk"> &lt;elky&gt;</span> is that everyone?
<a name="l-15"></a><span class="tm">07:39:58</span><span class="nk"> &lt;elky&gt;</span> <span class="topic">#topic </span><span class="topicline">Items from last meeting: anitsirk to update the roadmap</span>
<a name="l-16"></a><span class="tm">07:40:29</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anitsirk&gt;</span> <span class="cmd">#info </span><span class="cmdline">the update of the roadmap files with links to the blueprints is done</span>
<a name="l-17"></a><span class="tm">07:40:50</span><span class="nk"> &lt;elky&gt;</span> <span class="cmd">#link </span><span class="cmdline">Agenda: https://wiki.mahara.org/index.php/Developer_Area/Developer_Meetings/2012-05-23</span>
<a name="l-18"></a><span class="tm">07:42:14</span><span class="nk"> &lt;elky&gt;</span> anitsirk, next item?
<a name="l-19"></a><span class="tm">07:42:34</span><span class="nk"> &lt;elky&gt;</span> <span class="topic">#topic </span><span class="topicline">Items from last meeting: dajan to raise appropriate issues in the tracker</span>
<a name="l-20"></a><span class="tm">07:42:43</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anitsirk&gt;</span> <span class="hi">BTW:</span> for those who haven't been here for a long time, please put a ".." in a separate line if you have text that is very long and needs to stretch over multiple lines
<a name="l-21"></a><span class="tm">07:43:01</span><span class="nk"> &lt;elky&gt;</span> dajan isn't here I don't think, anyone know if that was done?
<a name="l-22"></a><span class="tm">07:43:04</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anitsirk&gt;</span> <span class="hi">elky:</span> what was that about again/
<a name="l-23"></a><span class="tm">07:43:05</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anitsirk&gt;</span> ?
<a name="l-24"></a><span class="tm">07:43:10</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anitsirk&gt;</span> dajan might have already finished that
<a name="l-25"></a><span class="tm">07:43:32</span><span class="nk"> &lt;elky&gt;</span> i'm not sure, i'm just following the agenda :)
<a name="l-26"></a><span class="tm">07:43:37</span><span class="nk"> &lt;elky&gt;</span> moving on then
<a name="l-27"></a><span class="tm">07:43:48</span><span class="nk"> &lt;elky&gt;</span> <span class="topic">#topic </span><span class="topicline">anzeljg To put together a quick wiki page with some information (possibly code too)</span>
<a name="l-28"></a><span class="tm">07:43:54</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anzeljg&gt;</span> Sorry, but I haven't done that yet...
<a name="l-29"></a><span class="tm">07:43:58</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anzeljg&gt;</span> I had troubles with using/creating custom Pieform element to give users abilitiy to select files to include in page/view when they drag and drop block to it's position in view/page.
<a name="l-30"></a><span class="tm">07:44:03</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anzeljg&gt;</span> It worked for single folder, but wanted to create filemanager of some sort, to allow navigating through filders and sub-folders.
<a name="l-31"></a><span class="tm">07:44:08</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anzeljg&gt;</span> Finally found Datatables plugin for jQuery (http://datatables.net/), but there are License compatibility questions/issues I want to ask/raise later...
<a name="l-32"></a><span class="tm">07:44:14</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anzeljg&gt;</span> Anyway, now I have to integrate this into custom Pieform element and test if it works, and then the plugin (initial version) should be completed. Hopefully till Mahara UK 2012 Conference as I want to present the plugin there...
<a name="l-33"></a><span class="tm">07:44:15</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anzeljg&gt;</span> ..
<a name="l-34"></a><span class="tm">07:44:30</span><span class="nk"> &lt;elky&gt;</span> anzeljg, is that the licence thing you were asking about earlier today?
<a name="l-35"></a><span class="tm">07:44:35</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anzeljg&gt;</span> yep
<a name="l-36"></a><span class="tm">07:44:51</span><span class="nk"> &lt;elky&gt;</span> cool
<a name="l-37"></a><span class="tm">07:45:15</span><span class="nk"> &lt;elky&gt;</span> <span class="topic">#topic </span><span class="topicline">Mahara reviewer applications</span>
<a name="l-38"></a><span class="tm">07:45:33</span><span class="nk"> &lt;elky&gt;</span> alan's up first :)
<a name="l-39"></a><span class="tm">07:45:52</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anitsirk&gt;</span> <span class="hi">alanmc:</span> can you please put in the link to your wiki page?
<a name="l-40"></a><span class="tm">07:45:54</span><span class="nk"> &lt;elky&gt;</span> I don't know how these go, never seen one happen
<a name="l-41"></a><span class="tm">07:45:55</span><span class="nk"> &lt;dobedobedoh&gt;</span> It seems the wiki is down too by the way
<a name="l-42"></a><span class="tm">07:45:59</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anitsirk&gt;</span> (and the others up for review as well)
<a name="l-43"></a><span class="tm">07:46:06</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anitsirk&gt;</span> what? i just accessed it
<a name="l-44"></a><span class="tm">07:46:07</span><span class="nk"> &lt;elky&gt;</span> dobedobedoh, i have it up
<a name="l-45"></a><span class="tm">07:46:10</span><span class="nk"> &lt;alanmc&gt;</span> https://wiki.mahara.org/index.php/User:Alanmc
<a name="l-46"></a><span class="tm">07:46:13</span><span class="nk"> &lt;dobedobedoh&gt;</span> wait... no it' sjust me
<a name="l-47"></a><span class="tm">07:46:29</span><span class="nk"> &lt;lamiette&gt;</span> *snigger*
<a name="l-48"></a><span class="tm">07:46:51</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anitsirk&gt;</span> http://meetbot.mylittleproject.co.uk/mahara-dev/2011/mahara-dev.2011-06-29-19.35.log.html#l-310 -&lt; that's what we did last time
<a name="l-49"></a><span class="tm">07:47:15</span><span class="nk"> &lt;elky&gt;</span> <span class="cmd">#link </span><span class="cmdline">https://wiki.mahara.org/index.php/User:Alanmc</span>
<a name="l-50"></a><span class="tm">07:47:40</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anitsirk&gt;</span> <span class="cmd">#info: </span><span class="cmdline">alanmc reviewer application</span>
<a name="l-51"></a><span class="tm">07:47:52</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anitsirk&gt;</span> <span class="cmd">#info: </span><span class="cmdline">sonn1 reviewer application</span>
<a name="l-52"></a><span class="tm">07:48:00</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anitsirk&gt;</span> <span class="cmd">#info: </span><span class="cmdline">elky reviewer application</span>
<a name="l-53"></a><span class="tm">07:48:16</span><span class="nk"> &lt;sonn1&gt;</span> <span class="cmd">#link </span><span class="cmdline">https://wiki.mahara.org/index.php/User:Ngson2000</span>
<a name="l-54"></a><span class="tm">07:48:45</span><span class="nk"> &lt;elky&gt;</span> <span class="cmd">#link </span><span class="cmdline">https://wiki.mahara.org/index.php/User:Melissadraper</span>
<a name="l-55"></a><span class="tm">07:49:28</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anitsirk&gt;</span> only current reviewers can vote on the applications. that are as per richardm 's extracted list: http://paste.dollyfish.net.nz/4b8f4a: richardm, lamiette, hughdavenport`, rkabalin_, dobedobedoh, bug, lordp, danp
<a name="l-56"></a><span class="tm">07:50:07</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anitsirk&gt;</span> i'll count votes so there's no way elky sees them as chair as she is up as reviewer as well. ;-)
<a name="l-57"></a><span class="tm">07:50:18</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anitsirk&gt;</span> and hopefully, we won't have a fire alarm again as last time.
<a name="l-58"></a><span class="tm">07:50:24</span><span class="nk"> &lt;elky&gt;</span> darn, there goes my evil plan
<a name="l-59"></a><span class="tm">07:50:30</span><span class="nk"> &lt;hughdavenport`&gt;</span> muhahaha
<a name="l-60"></a><span class="tm">07:50:32</span><span class="nk"> &lt;alanmc&gt;</span> heh
<a name="l-61"></a><span class="tm">07:50:41</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anitsirk&gt;</span> so we have 5 out of 8 present today
<a name="l-62"></a><span class="tm">07:51:07</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anzeljg&gt;</span> that's majority
<a name="l-63"></a><span class="tm">07:51:14</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anitsirk&gt;</span> <span class="cmd">#info: </span><span class="cmdline">dobedobedoh said last time "consensus decision rules, with those at the meeting entitled to vote"</span>
<a name="l-64"></a><span class="tm">07:51:45</span><span class="nk"> &lt;dobedobedoh&gt;</span> so three votes needed
<a name="l-65"></a><span class="tm">07:51:47</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anitsirk&gt;</span> do current reviewers have any questions for the applicatants?
<a name="l-66"></a><span class="tm">07:52:25</span><span class="nk"> &lt;dobedobedoh&gt;</span> none from me (well nothing sensible)
<a name="l-67"></a><span class="tm">07:52:32</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anitsirk&gt;</span> https://wiki.mahara.org/index.php/Developer_Area/Code_Review actually details the "Becoming a Reviewer"
<a name="l-68"></a><span class="tm">07:52:32</span><span class="nk"> &lt;rkabalin_&gt;</span> How did they came accross Mahara? :)
<a name="l-69"></a><span class="tm">07:52:57</span><span class="nk"> &lt;alanmc&gt;</span> I'll start ..
<a name="l-70"></a><span class="tm">07:53:07</span><span class="nk"> &lt;rkabalin_&gt;</span> just in few words
<a name="l-71"></a><span class="tm">07:53:17</span><span class="nk"> &lt;alanmc&gt;</span> Kinda looking for a problem to solve really .. kinda back-to-front ;)
<a name="l-72"></a><span class="tm">07:53:17</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anitsirk&gt;</span> oh, alanmc is verbose today ;-)
<a name="l-73"></a><span class="tm">07:53:51</span><span class="nk"> &lt;elky&gt;</span> I was seconded for bug squishing for 1.4, and got sucked in :)
<a name="l-74"></a><span class="tm">07:54:06</span><span class="nk"> &lt;elky&gt;</span> It's a really nice project to work on.
<a name="l-75"></a><span class="tm">07:54:10</span><span class="nk"> &lt;rkabalin_&gt;</span> <span class="hi">alanmc:</span> ok, the same way as me then
<a name="l-76"></a><span class="tm">07:54:24</span><span class="nk"> &lt;sonn1&gt;</span> bug fixing for master
<a name="l-77"></a><span class="tm">07:55:00</span><span class="nk"> &lt;alanmc&gt;</span> <span class="hi">rkabalin_:</span> yes .. I hear a lot of positive things from 2 hand but would love to be closer to the end users .. so that changes can be appreciated
<a name="l-78"></a><span class="tm">07:55:38</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anitsirk&gt;</span> <span class="hi">alanmc:</span> the mobile stuff you do is very much appreciated among users. also you responding to their queries.
<a name="l-79"></a><span class="tm">07:55:55</span><span class="nk"> &lt;rkabalin_&gt;</span> thanks, no more questions from me
<a name="l-80"></a><span class="tm">07:56:01</span><span class="nk"> &lt;alanmc&gt;</span> <span class="hi">anitsirk:</span> a field trip is overdue :)
<a name="l-81"></a><span class="tm">07:56:09</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anitsirk&gt;</span> hehe
<a name="l-82"></a><span class="tm">07:56:38</span><span class="nk"> &lt;dobedobedoh&gt;</span> question from me: If you had to implement one new feature in mahara to improve the platform, what would it be?
<a name="l-83"></a><span class="tm">07:57:05</span><span class="nk"> &lt;elky&gt;</span> We have to pick just one? :(
<a name="l-84"></a><span class="tm">07:57:06</span><span class="nk"> &lt;richardm&gt;</span> nice question dobedobedoh!
<a name="l-85"></a><span class="tm">07:57:08</span><span class="nk"> &lt;rkabalin_&gt;</span> <span class="hi">dobedobedoh:</span> that is a sensible one :)
<a name="l-86"></a><span class="tm">07:57:20</span><span class="nk"> &lt;alanmc&gt;</span> <span class="hi">dobedobedoh:</span> my preference would be to review theming/layout to work on wider arrange of devices
<a name="l-87"></a><span class="tm">07:57:27</span><span class="nk"> &lt;dobedobedoh&gt;</span> it can be an existing feature in development, or something fresh and new
<a name="l-88"></a><span class="tm">07:57:28</span><span class="nk"> &lt;sonn1&gt;</span> multiple language
<a name="l-89"></a><span class="tm">07:57:37</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anitsirk&gt;</span> <span class="hi">sonn1:</span> what do you mean by that?
<a name="l-90"></a><span class="tm">07:57:41</span><span class="nk"> &lt;alanmc&gt;</span> <span class="hi">sonn1:</span> interesting?
<a name="l-91"></a><span class="tm">07:57:56 </span><span class="nka">* dobedobedoh</span> <span class="ac">guesses multilang</span>
<a name="l-92"></a><span class="tm">07:58:07</span><span class="nk"> &lt;sonn1&gt;</span> yes
<a name="l-93"></a><span class="tm">07:58:17</span><span class="nk"> &lt;alanmc&gt;</span> | more
<a name="l-94"></a><span class="tm">07:58:25</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anitsirk&gt;</span> in what sense? more lang packs? easier access to the interface translation? automatic translation of the portfolio?...
<a name="l-95"></a><span class="tm">07:58:43</span><span class="nk"> &lt;dobedobedoh&gt;</span> &lt;span class="multilang" lang="en"&gt;English&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="multilang" lang="au"&gt;Australian&lt;/span&gt;
<a name="l-96"></a><span class="tm">07:58:44</span><span class="nk"> &lt;sonn1&gt;</span> more language packs
<a name="l-97"></a><span class="tm">07:58:54</span><span class="nk"> &lt;sonn1&gt;</span> can display in different languages
<a name="l-98"></a><span class="tm">07:58:56</span><span class="nk"> &lt;dobedobedoh&gt;</span> ah okay, not what I had in mind ;)
<a name="l-99"></a><span class="tm">07:59:20</span><span class="nk"> &lt;sonn1&gt;</span> translation feature
<a name="l-100"></a><span class="tm">07:59:28</span><span class="nk"> &lt;sonn1&gt;</span> and so on
<a name="l-101"></a><span class="tm">07:59:54</span><span class="nk"> &lt;elky&gt;</span> I'd love to see improvements to the accessibility.
<a name="l-102"></a><span class="tm">07:59:55</span><span class="nk"> &lt;richardm&gt;</span> sonn1 and i had a discussion about support for translations of user content
<a name="l-103"></a><span class="tm">07:59:58</span><span class="nk"> &lt;richardm&gt;</span> we don't have that yet
<a name="l-104"></a><span class="tm">08:00:15</span><span class="nk"> &lt;dobedobedoh&gt;</span> <span class="hi">elky:</span> Do you have anything specific in mind. One specific change?
<a name="l-105"></a><span class="tm">08:00:31</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anitsirk&gt;</span> that would be interesting. also the ability to store your CV in multiple languages (idea from Klaus and team in Austria)
<a name="l-106"></a><span class="tm">08:00:59</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anzeljg&gt;</span> <span class="hi">richardm:</span> it is kindda implemented for showing Europass stuff in different languages...
<a name="l-107"></a><span class="tm">08:01:13</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anzeljg&gt;</span> maybe in that direcion?
<a name="l-108"></a><span class="tm">08:01:14</span><span class="nk"> &lt;richardm&gt;</span> ah, nice
<a name="l-109"></a><span class="tm">08:01:53</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anzeljg&gt;</span> not everything is translatable, but majority
<a name="l-110"></a><span class="tm">08:01:58</span><span class="nk"> &lt;richardm&gt;</span> we were specifically thinking the first priority would be stuff like the homepage content
<a name="l-111"></a><span class="tm">08:01:58</span><span class="nk"> &lt;elky&gt;</span> dobedobedoh, vision-impaired friendly theming and settings that help users adjust to their specific accomodations
<a name="l-112"></a><span class="tm">08:02:16</span><span class="nk"> &lt;elky&gt;</span> <span class="hi">eg:</span> high-contrast theme with configurable text size
<a name="l-113"></a><span class="tm">08:02:59</span><span class="nk"> &lt;elky&gt;</span> and i think we could do with making sure the entire site is able to be keyboard driven
<a name="l-114"></a><span class="tm">08:03:14</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anitsirk&gt;</span> <span class="cmd">#idea </span><span class="cmdline">from reviewer applicant alanmc for new mahara feature: review theming/layout to work on wider arrange of devices</span>
<a name="l-115"></a><span class="tm">08:03:25</span><span class="nk"> &lt;dobedobedoh&gt;</span> (that's all of my questions)
<a name="l-116"></a><span class="tm">08:03:43</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anzeljg&gt;</span> back
<a name="l-117"></a><span class="tm">08:03:59</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anitsirk&gt;</span> <span class="cmd">#idea </span><span class="cmdline">from reviewer applicatant sonn1 (and richardm) for new mahara feature: support for translation of user content and homepage content</span>
<a name="l-118"></a><span class="tm">08:04:34</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anitsirk&gt;</span> <span class="cmd">#idea </span><span class="cmdline">from reviewer applicant elky for new mahara feature: improvements to accessibility, e.g. vision-impaired friendly theming and settings that help users adjust to their specific accomodations</span>
<a name="l-119"></a><span class="tm">08:04:55</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anitsirk&gt;</span> any other questions? richardm, lamiette or hughdavenport`?
<a name="l-120"></a><span class="tm">08:05:00</span><span class="nk"> &lt;hughdavenport`&gt;</span> nothing from me
<a name="l-121"></a><span class="tm">08:05:04</span><span class="nk"> &lt;richardm&gt;</span> none from me
<a name="l-122"></a><span class="tm">08:05:16</span><span class="nk"> &lt;alanmc&gt;</span> <span class="hi">elky:</span> curious about the keyboard driven .. could that be as simple as an audit of say use of accesskey etc to be able to 'make it work' .. anything tangible?
<a name="l-123"></a><span class="tm">08:05:17</span><span class="nk"> &lt;lamiette&gt;</span> non thanks
<a name="l-124"></a><span class="tm">08:05:29</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anitsirk&gt;</span> then let's move to the voting, shall we?
<a name="l-125"></a><span class="tm">08:05:31</span><span class="nk"> &lt;dobedobedoh&gt;</span> (I did that a few years ago)
<a name="l-126"></a><span class="tm">08:05:37</span><span class="nk"> &lt;elky&gt;</span> alanmc, yep. it'd make your job a lot easier too
<a name="l-127"></a><span class="tm">08:05:52</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anitsirk&gt;</span> all of you who can vote...
<a name="l-128"></a><span class="tm">08:06:23</span><span class="nk"> &lt;hughdavenport`&gt;</span> sounds like a plan
<a name="l-129"></a><span class="tm">08:06:26</span><span class="nk"> &lt;anitsirk&gt;</span> please say "#agreed for [nickname of applicatant] to become Mahara reviewer" (without the quotes)
<a name="l-130"></a><span class="tm">08:06:28</span><span class="nk"> &lt;alanmc&gt;</span> <span class="hi">dobedobedoh:</span> cool ... elky yeah it's always a battle with latest jQuery foo and being able to support accessibility .. I'm not super flash on that - it's easy to forget
<a name="l-131"></a><span class="tm">08:07:20</span><span class="nk"> &lt;dobedobedoh&gt;</span> <span class="cmd">#agreed </span><span class="cmdline">for elky to become a Mahara reviewer</span>
<a name="l-132"></a><span class="tm">08:07:27</span><span class="nk"> &lt;dobedobedoh&gt;</span> <span class="cmd">#agreed </span><span class="cmdline">for alanmc to become a Mahara reviewer</span>
<a name="l-133"></a><span class="tm">08:07:37</span><span class="nk"> &lt;dobedobedoh&gt;</span> <span class="cmd">#agreed </span><span class="cmdline">for sonn1 to become a Mahara reviewer</span>
<a name="l-134"></a><span class="tm">08:07:41</span><span class="nk"> &lt;rkabalin_&gt;</span> <span class="cmd">#agreed </span><span class="cmdline">for alanmc to become Mahara reviewer</span>
<a name="l-135"></a><span class="tm">08:07:46</span><span class="nk"> &lt;hughdavenport`&gt;</span> <span class="cmd">#agreed </span><span class="cmdline">for elky to become a Mahara reviewer</span>