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<h1>#mahara-dev Meeting</h1>
<span class="details">
Meeting started by dobedobedoh at 07:34:17 UTC
(<a href="mahara-dev.2010-11-10-07.34.log.html">full logs</a>).</span>
<br><br>
<h3>Meeting summary</h3>
<ol>
<li><b class="TOPIC">What should go into 1.4?</b> <span class="details">(<a href='mahara-dev.2010-11-10-07.34.log.html#l-34'>dobedobedoh</a>, 07:37:20)</span>
<ol type="a">
<li><a
href="http://wiki.mahara.org/Roadmap/1.4/1.4_Wishlist">http://wiki.mahara.org/Roadmap/1.4/1.4_Wishlist</a>
<span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2010-11-10-07.34.log.html#l-44'>lamiette</a>,
07:40:16)</span></li>
<li><a
href="http://wiki.mahara.org/Contributors">http://wiki.mahara.org/Contributors</a>
<span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2010-11-10-07.34.log.html#l-62'>anitsirk</a>,
07:42:39)</span></li>
<li><a
href="http://wiki.mahara.org/Roadmap/1.4/1.4_Wishlist">http://wiki.mahara.org/Roadmap/1.4/1.4_Wishlist</a>
&lt;- those <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2010-11-10-07.34.log.html#l-131'>lamiette</a>,
07:57:16)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">AGREED</i>: <span class="AGREED">Usability
enhancements, and Institution Separation for 1.4 subject to
governance group agreement. Gregor's skins patch and PDF export my
go in dependant on time</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2010-11-10-07.34.log.html#l-145'>dobedobedoh</a>,
08:01:04)</span></li>
</ol>
<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">Release Policy</b> <span class="details">(<a href='mahara-dev.2010-11-10-07.34.log.html#l-146'>dobedobedoh</a>, 08:01:12)</span>
<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">Sanitisation of language packs</b> <span class="details">(<a href='mahara-dev.2010-11-10-07.34.log.html#l-180'>dobedobedoh</a>, 08:08:11)</span>
<ol type="a">
<li><i class="itemtype">ACTION</i>: <span class="ACTION">iarenaza to
draft language pack release policy</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2010-11-10-07.34.log.html#l-217'>dobedobedoh</a>,
08:14:51)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">AGREED</i>: <span class="AGREED">1.5 hour
meeting</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2010-11-10-07.34.log.html#l-231'>dobedobedoh</a>,
08:16:29)</span></li>
</ol>
<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">Commit access policy</b> <span class="details">(<a href='mahara-dev.2010-11-10-07.34.log.html#l-232'>dobedobedoh</a>, 08:16:36)</span>
<ol type="a">
<li><i class="itemtype">AGREED</i>: <span class="AGREED">fmarier&gt;
1) new developer proposed at developer meetings</span> <span
class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2010-11-10-07.34.log.html#l-362'>dobedobedoh</a>,
08:35:22)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">AGREED</i>: <span class="AGREED">1) new
developer proposed at developer meetings</span> <span
class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2010-11-10-07.34.log.html#l-397'>dobedobedoh</a>,
08:42:44)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">AGREED</i>: <span class="AGREED">2) people get
to vote based on contributions</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2010-11-10-07.34.log.html#l-398'>dobedobedoh</a>,
08:42:44)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">AGREED</i>: <span class="AGREED">3) the
sponsor monitors commit for a bit afterwards</span> <span
class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2010-11-10-07.34.log.html#l-399'>dobedobedoh</a>,
08:42:44)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">AGREED</i>: <span class="AGREED">4) developer
status expires after a year but is renewable indefinitely</span>
<span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2010-11-10-07.34.log.html#l-400'>dobedobedoh</a>,
08:42:44)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">AGREED</i>: <span class="AGREED">5) ultimate
decision is with the lead developer</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2010-11-10-07.34.log.html#l-401'>dobedobedoh</a>,
08:42:48)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">AGREED</i>: <span class="AGREED">6) those
present at a developer meeting with commit access are entitled to
vote.</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2010-11-10-07.34.log.html#l-402'>dobedobedoh</a>,
08:42:50)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">AGREED</i>: <span class="AGREED">Drop point
5</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2010-11-10-07.34.log.html#l-416'>dobedobedoh</a>,
08:45:13)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">AGREED</i>: <span class="AGREED">7) consensus
decision rules</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2010-11-10-07.34.log.html#l-425'>dobedobedoh</a>,
08:47:58)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">IDEA</i>: <span class="IDEA">should large
features include reasonable testing in the future?</span> <span
class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2010-11-10-07.34.log.html#l-446'>dobedobedoh</a>,
08:53:05)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">ACTION</i>: <span class="ACTION">Mjollnir` to
merge phpunit branch into master</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2010-11-10-07.34.log.html#l-503'>dobedobedoh</a>,
09:02:13)</span></li>
</ol>
<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">Next Meeting</b> <span class="details">(<a href='mahara-dev.2010-11-10-07.34.log.html#l-508'>dobedobedoh</a>, 09:03:18)</span>
<ol type="a">
<li><i class="itemtype">AGREED</i>: <span class="AGREED">next meeting
14th Dec @ 7:30pm GMT / 15th Dec @ 7:30am NZST</span> <span
class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2010-11-10-07.34.log.html#l-552'>dobedobedoh</a>,
09:08:47)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">ACTION</i>: <span class="ACTION">dobedobedoh
to put minutes on wiki.mahara.org</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2010-11-10-07.34.log.html#l-568'>dobedobedoh</a>,
09:11:26)</span></li>
</ol>
</li>
</ol>
<br><br>
<span class="details">
Meeting ended at 09:12:26 UTC
(<a href="mahara-dev.2010-11-10-07.34.log.html">full logs</a>).</span>
<br><br>
<h3>Action items</h3>
<ol>
<li>iarenaza to draft language pack release policy</li>
<li>Mjollnir` to merge phpunit branch into master</li>
<li>dobedobedoh to put minutes on wiki.mahara.org</li>
</ol>
<br><br>
<h3>Action items, by person</h3>
<ol>
<li> dobedobedoh <ol>
<li>dobedobedoh to put minutes on wiki.mahara.org</li>
</ol></li>
<li> iarenaza <ol>
<li>iarenaza to draft language pack release policy</li>
</ol></li>
<li> Mjollnir` <ol>
<li>Mjollnir` to merge phpunit branch into master</li>
</ol></li>
</ol>
<br><br>
<h3>People present (lines said)</h3>
<ol>
<li>dobedobedoh (126)</li>
<li>fmarier (110)</li>
<li>Mjollnir` (100)</li>
<li>dm (70)</li>
<li>richardm (45)</li>
<li>anitsirk (36)</li>
<li>iarenaza (28)</li>
<li>aguri (24)</li>
<li>lamiette (21)</li>
<li>rkabalin (14)</li>
<li>maharameet (3)</li>
<li>adi_b (2)</li>
</ol>
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#mahara-dev Meeting
===================
Meeting started by dobedobedoh at 07:34:17 UTC. The full logs are
available at
http://meetbot.mylittleproject.co.uk/mahara-dev/2010/mahara-dev.2010-11-10-07.34.log.html
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* What should go into 1.4? (dobedobedoh, 07:37:20)
* LINK: http://wiki.mahara.org/Roadmap/1.4/1.4_Wishlist (lamiette,
07:40:16)
* LINK: http://wiki.mahara.org/Contributors (anitsirk, 07:42:39)
* LINK: http://wiki.mahara.org/Roadmap/1.4/1.4_Wishlist <- those
(lamiette, 07:57:16)
* AGREED: Usability enhancements, and Institution Separation for 1.4
subject to governance group agreement. Gregor's skins patch and PDF
export my go in dependant on time (dobedobedoh, 08:01:04)
* Release Policy (dobedobedoh, 08:01:12)
* Sanitisation of language packs (dobedobedoh, 08:08:11)
* ACTION: iarenaza to draft language pack release policy
(dobedobedoh, 08:14:51)
* AGREED: 1.5 hour meeting (dobedobedoh, 08:16:29)
* Commit access policy (dobedobedoh, 08:16:36)
* AGREED: fmarier> 1) new developer proposed at developer meetings
(dobedobedoh, 08:35:22)
* AGREED: 1) new developer proposed at developer meetings
(dobedobedoh, 08:42:44)
* AGREED: 2) people get to vote based on contributions (dobedobedoh,
08:42:44)
* AGREED: 3) the sponsor monitors commit for a bit afterwards
(dobedobedoh, 08:42:44)
* AGREED: 4) developer status expires after a year but is renewable
indefinitely (dobedobedoh, 08:42:44)
* AGREED: 5) ultimate decision is with the lead developer
(dobedobedoh, 08:42:48)
* AGREED: 6) those present at a developer meeting with commit access
are entitled to vote. (dobedobedoh, 08:42:50)
* AGREED: Drop point 5 (dobedobedoh, 08:45:13)
* AGREED: 7) consensus decision rules (dobedobedoh, 08:47:58)
* IDEA: should large features include reasonable testing in the
future? (dobedobedoh, 08:53:05)
* ACTION: Mjollnir` to merge phpunit branch into master (dobedobedoh,
09:02:13)
* Next Meeting (dobedobedoh, 09:03:18)
* AGREED: next meeting 14th Dec @ 7:30pm GMT / 15th Dec @ 7:30am NZST
(dobedobedoh, 09:08:47)
* ACTION: dobedobedoh to put minutes on wiki.mahara.org (dobedobedoh,
09:11:26)
Meeting ended at 09:12:26 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* iarenaza to draft language pack release policy
* Mjollnir` to merge phpunit branch into master
* dobedobedoh to put minutes on wiki.mahara.org
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* dobedobedoh
* dobedobedoh to put minutes on wiki.mahara.org
* iarenaza
* iarenaza to draft language pack release policy
* Mjollnir`
* Mjollnir` to merge phpunit branch into master
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* dobedobedoh (126)
* fmarier (110)
* Mjollnir` (100)
* dm (70)
* richardm (45)
* anitsirk (36)
* iarenaza (28)
* aguri (24)
* lamiette (21)
* rkabalin (14)
* maharameet (3)
* adi_b (2)
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<h1>#mahara-dev Meeting</h1>
<span class="details">
Meeting started by dobedobedoh at 19:30:20 UTC
(<a href="mahara-dev.2010-12-14-19.30.log.html">full logs</a>).</span>
<br><br>
<h3>Meeting summary</h3>
<ol>
<li><b class="TOPIC">Previous Meeting</b> <span class="details">(<a href='mahara-dev.2010-12-14-19.30.log.html#l-26'>dobedobedoh</a>, 19:35:10)</span>
<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">Basic tests (fmarier)</b> <span class="details">(<a href='mahara-dev.2010-12-14-19.30.log.html#l-50'>dobedobedoh</a>, 19:38:41)</span>
<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">Forum code of conduct (dobedobedoh)</b> <span class="details">(<a href='mahara-dev.2010-12-14-19.30.log.html#l-57'>dobedobedoh</a>, 19:41:34)</span>
<ol type="a">
<li><i class="itemtype">ACTION</i>: <span class="ACTION">dobedobedoh
to beg/borrow/steal/invent a forum code of conduct and place on the
wiki</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2010-12-14-19.30.log.html#l-86'>dobedobedoh</a>,
19:52:34)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">ACTION</i>: <span class="ACTION">richardm to
appoint lamiette and dobedobedoh as forum mods in Community
forum</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2010-12-14-19.30.log.html#l-102'>dobedobedoh</a>,
19:58:52)</span></li>
</ol>
<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">Skin Support for Mahara Views (anzeljg)</b> <span class="details">(<a href='mahara-dev.2010-12-14-19.30.log.html#l-105'>dobedobedoh</a>, 20:00:17)</span>
<ol type="a">
<li><a
href="http://mahara.ledina.org/1.4.0.skin/view/view.php?id=12">http://mahara.ledina.org/1.4.0.skin/view/view.php?id=12</a>
<span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2010-12-14-19.30.log.html#l-115'>richardm</a>,
20:02:17)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">ACTION</i>: <span class="ACTION">dobedobedoh
and anzeljg to go over skins patches to try and getthem into
1.4</span> <span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2010-12-14-19.30.log.html#l-168'>dobedobedoh</a>,
20:18:49)</span></li>
</ol>
<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">Next Meeting</b> <span class="details">(<a href='mahara-dev.2010-12-14-19.30.log.html#l-186'>dobedobedoh</a>, 20:25:26)</span>
<ol type="a">
<li><i class="itemtype">AGREED</i>: <span class="AGREED">Next Meeting
@ 07:30 GMT / 20:30 NZDT on Wednesday 19th Jan 2011</span> <span
class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2010-12-14-19.30.log.html#l-199'>dobedobedoh</a>,
20:28:27)</span></li>
</ol>
<br></li>
<li><b class="TOPIC">Any Other Business</b> <span class="details">(<a href='mahara-dev.2010-12-14-19.30.log.html#l-200'>dobedobedoh</a>, 20:28:29)</span>
<ol type="a">
<li><span class="INFO">anitsirk will co-chair next meeting</span>
<span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2010-12-14-19.30.log.html#l-213'>dobedobedoh</a>,
20:31:22)</span></li>
<li><i class="itemtype">ACTION</i>: <span class="ACTION">dobedobedoh
will add minutes to wiki and create pages for next meeting</span>
<span class="details">(<a
href='mahara-dev.2010-12-14-19.30.log.html#l-215'>dobedobedoh</a>,
20:32:04)</span></li>
</ol>
</li>
</ol>
<br><br>
<span class="details">
Meeting ended at 20:34:07 UTC
(<a href="mahara-dev.2010-12-14-19.30.log.html">full logs</a>).</span>
<br><br>
<h3>Action items</h3>
<ol>
<li>dobedobedoh to beg/borrow/steal/invent a forum code of conduct and place on the wiki</li>
<li>richardm to appoint lamiette and dobedobedoh as forum mods in Community forum</li>
<li>dobedobedoh and anzeljg to go over skins patches to try and getthem into 1.4</li>
<li>dobedobedoh will add minutes to wiki and create pages for next meeting</li>
</ol>
<br><br>
<h3>Action items, by person</h3>
<ol>
<li> anzeljg <ol>
<li>dobedobedoh and anzeljg to go over skins patches to try and getthem into 1.4</li>
</ol></li>
<li> dobedobedoh <ol>
<li>dobedobedoh to beg/borrow/steal/invent a forum code of conduct and place on the wiki</li>
<li>richardm to appoint lamiette and dobedobedoh as forum mods in Community forum</li>
<li>dobedobedoh and anzeljg to go over skins patches to try and getthem into 1.4</li>
<li>dobedobedoh will add minutes to wiki and create pages for next meeting</li>
</ol></li>
<li> lamiette <ol>
<li>richardm to appoint lamiette and dobedobedoh as forum mods in Community forum</li>
</ol></li>
<li> richardm <ol>
<li>richardm to appoint lamiette and dobedobedoh as forum mods in Community forum</li>
</ol></li>
</ol>
<br><br>
<h3>People present (lines said)</h3>
<ol>
<li>dobedobedoh (88)</li>
<li>richardm (38)</li>
<li>anzeljg (36)</li>
<li>anitsirk (31)</li>
<li>Mjollnir` (11)</li>
<li>lamiette (11)</li>
<li>rangi (3)</li>
<li>maharameet (2)</li>
</ol>
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19:30:20 <dobedobedoh> #startmeeting
19:30:20 <maharameet> Meeting started Tue Dec 14 19:30:20 2010 UTC. The chair is dobedobedoh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
19:30:20 <maharameet> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
19:30:53 <dobedobedoh> The meeting agenda is available at http://wiki.mahara.org/Developer_Area/Developer_Meetings/December_14th_2010
19:31:03 <dobedobedoh> Agenda:
19:31:03 <dobedobedoh> * Previous Meeting
19:31:03 <dobedobedoh> * Basic tests (fmarier)
19:31:03 <dobedobedoh> * Forum code of conduct (dobedobedoh)
19:31:03 <dobedobedoh> * Next Meeting
19:31:06 <dobedobedoh> * Any Other Business
19:31:28 <anzeljg> Richard asked me to join the meeting and present the Skin support for Mahara views
19:31:28 <anitsirk> who's already here besides do
19:31:38 <anitsirk> besides dobedobedoh and anzeljg and me?
19:31:38 <dobedobedoh> Shall we see who's around?
19:31:49 <lamiette> me
19:31:54 <dobedobedoh> We've had apologies from:
19:32:05 <anitsirk> hi lamiette
19:32:09 <dobedobedoh> I've seen apologies from fmarier, rkabalin and dan_p
19:32:27 <lamiette> hi anitsirk
19:32:56 * dobedobedoh is here in the UK
19:33:30 * anzeljg lives in Ljubljana, Slovenia
19:33:34 * lamiette suspects thi'll be a quick meeting
19:33:42 * anitsirk is in wellington, nz
19:34:43 <anitsirk> rangi from the koha team will join us in a second
19:35:09 <dobedobedoh> Okay. I'll start with the previous meeting
19:35:10 <dobedobedoh> #topic Previous Meeting
19:35:31 <dobedobedoh> There were actions on three people in the last meeting:
19:35:32 <dobedobedoh> * iarenaza to draft language pack release policy
19:35:32 <dobedobedoh> * Mjollnir` to merge phpunit branch into master
19:35:33 <dobedobedoh> * dobedobedoh to put minutes on wiki.mahara.org
19:35:45 <dobedobedoh> I've put the minutes from the last meeting on wiki.mahara.org
19:35:53 <Mjollnir`> highlighted my name!
19:35:56 <dobedobedoh> Mjollnir` or iarenaza are you around?
19:35:57 <Mjollnir`> oh i didn't merge anything
19:36:19 <Mjollnir`> don't think i even committed anything since last meeting
19:36:22 <Mjollnir`> bad penny
19:36:25 <dobedobedoh> heh
19:36:30 <Mjollnir`> HI CHRIS
19:36:39 <anitsirk> hi rangi :-)
19:36:39 <dobedobedoh> Hi rangi
19:36:42 <richardm> sorry, im in a bit late
19:36:46 <rangi> man, i cant sneak in anywhere
19:36:48 <rangi> :)
19:36:51 <anitsirk> ;-)
19:36:58 * rangi will just lurk
19:37:00 <anitsirk> richardm: we just started
19:37:11 <dobedobedoh> iarenaza: are you around?
19:37:13 <lamiette> hi rangi
19:38:32 <dobedobedoh> I guess we'll move on and carry those actions forward to the next meeting
19:38:41 <dobedobedoh> #topic Basic tests (fmarier)
19:39:22 <dobedobedoh> fmarier sent his apologies so I guess we'll carry that forward to the next meeting too, unless someone else wants to talk about it?
19:39:28 <richardm> fmarier isn't here is he? he just wanted to make people aware of the makefile in the root
19:40:00 <richardm> if you do 'make push' it checks php syntax before pushing
19:40:56 <dobedobedoh> Anything else to add or should we move on?
19:41:19 <richardm> Nope I don;t know enough about it; move on
19:41:32 <dobedobedoh> heh okay
19:41:34 <dobedobedoh> #topic Forum code of conduct (dobedobedoh)
19:41:59 <dobedobedoh> I raised this because there's been quite a few odd posts in the forums recently - or at least when I aised it
19:42:18 <richardm> yeah there's a bit of spam
19:42:21 <dobedobedoh> Various spammy posts, plus a couple of people who repeatedly post and hassle people
19:42:46 <dobedobedoh> I was wondering whether we perhaps need a code of conduct we can point people to wrt to the latter issue
19:43:02 <anitsirk> i think we can't avoid the spam messages if people register and post something. or can that also be done by a bot?
19:43:09 <lamiette> just a wiki page document?
19:43:13 <richardm> I think for one of those guys, fmarier sent him an email & he's quite a bit better now
19:43:14 <dobedobedoh> And perhaps more people who can remove spammy posts, and/or move them to the appropriate forum?
19:43:38 <richardm> yeah, we could appoint more moderators
19:44:10 <richardm> evan's anti-spam stuff should help, but i don;t think it runs on forum posts yet
19:44:26 <richardm> just anonymous view comments
19:44:45 <anitsirk> some of the forum posts are difficult to detect if they don't have a spammy url
19:45:19 <richardm> don;t they all have a spammy url?
19:45:32 <richardm> i guess some have an email address instead
19:45:44 <dobedobedoh> I haven't had much of a chance to look in the forums recently so I don't know if things have improved in the last month.
19:46:40 <anitsirk> there aren't too many of these messages. i think one may not have had a moviesomething.com url
19:47:18 <anitsirk> if i took a guess, we may have had a max. of 2 messages during the last month
19:47:21 <dobedobedoh> It may be a bit more of a non-issue since mahara.org was upgraded to 1.3
19:49:34 <dobedobedoh> Would someone like to write a code of conduct on the wiki somewhere?
19:49:51 <richardm> what do you think should be in it?
19:49:53 <lamiette> I think having a forum code of conductct wiki page though is good just to point regular users to anyway
19:50:16 <dobedobedoh> I was thinking about something like the moodle.org forum one